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By: kim

Pielke Pere shakes it up, explaining the tectonism of the Watts and of the McNider paper. Read it and weep. ===============

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By: Louise

From http://climateaudit.org/2012/07/31/surface-stations/ “Whenever I’m working on my own material, I avoid arbitrary deadlines and like to mull things over for a few days. Unfortunately that didn’t...

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By: Eli Rabett

<a href="http://rabett.blogspot.com/2012/07/bunny-bait.html" rel="nofollow">Indeed </a>

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By: sunshinehours1

It is interesting to look at the BEST TMAX data for the USA. I calcultae 5 year averages by working back 5 years at a time from the last monthly anomaly. Top 10 Highest TMAX 5 year averages The current...

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By: tempterrain

Latimer, You’re hiding behind the fig leaf of semantics on this one, I’d say. The leaf isn’t really big enough and its not a pretty sight! It looks like Watt’s preparations were all one way. He was...

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By: robin

stevenmosher: Sorry, this thread is not nested enough, I knew that but forgot to clearly specify what I was replying to. I was meaning, to tony, that the data in the BEST download is super neat and...

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By: thisisnotgoodtogo

Steven Mosher, Thanks for responding, when have been busy and yet replied to so many queries. I think you mistake what ontological commitments are. I have only resisted your claim that science is not...

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By: Beth Cooper

re yr comment tngtgo, here’s a book I have on my shelves; ‘ What is this thing called science?’ by Dr Alan Chalmers,Uni of Qld Press1982… ( say, could be a relative of mine.) …Introduction…’ In modern...

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By: thisisnotgoodtogo

Hi Beth Thanks, I’ve been able to read bits online. One problem with Mosher’s approach is obvious. In asking for a cup of science, he gives a test for existence. In so implying that it is true that...

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By: Oliver K. Manuel

Probably nothing would better connect proponents and skeptics of AGW dogma, including this distinguished Professor Muller, to reality than a few minutes watching this video about our place in the...

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By: TerryMN

<b>Mosher:</b> "Hmm. No Ross recommended rejection. After his last comment, his commentary was taken in, changes were made per his suggestions, and his points were addressed, actually using...

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By: JamesG

Did I miss the bit where they validated the 1979 to 2012 part with the satellites. If they don’t agree then the entire exercise is invalid.

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By: JamesG

Using Berkeley logic we can conclude that increasing CO2 has dramatically reduced volcanic activity.

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By: Alexander Biggs

“A new release from Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature Posted on July 29, 2012″ The data presented to the US Senate by Christy shows a clear flattening off of the average global temperature as measured...

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By: Ashby

From my reading, this is the crux of the biscuit. Question- I’ve seen it claimed that class 2 stations warmed at a higher rate than class 3. Could it be that the UHI effects are a curve with...

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By: kim

Heh, tony, maybe moshe and Zeke are afraid to show you what you request for fear that you will find something wrong with it. There, that oughta work. ================

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By: climatereason

KIm I started to go through the country files and it seems uncannily like Hansen and Lebedeff, whereby data is ‘borrowed’ from another station up to 2000 km away. Its made worse by there being so few...

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By: Bart R

lurker, passing through laughing | July 30, 2012 at 11:11 am | So, that’s a “yes” to my question then.

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By: timg56

Does this mean no sandwich?

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By: harrywr2

The wife and I just spent 6 weeks exploring 8,000 miles of rural America. Rural doesn’t necessarily mean an absense of UHI. We’ve been thru more then one rural town with population measured in the...

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By: timg56

+1 for being funny and not having anything to do with you being (or not) an idiot.

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By: vukcevic

Has BEST team overcooked the temperature data? http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/Best-NH.htm

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By: TerryMN

After his last comment, his commentary was taken in, changes were made per his suggestions, and his points were addressed… I’d maintain that they were *not* addressed- per his second review: I had...

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By: TerryMN

(Unless, of course, you’re referring to activity after that review…)

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By: timg56

Bill, nice Sarah Palin reference. Now, if I recall correctly, Ms Palin managed to become a Governor and did quite well at it. What exactly are your accomplishments?

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By: AMac

> you might want to ask anyone around in 2007 I wasn’t around in 2007, but I can verify what Steven Mosher says as of early 2009. Disappointingly few people try hard to “call ‘em as they lay,” IMO...

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By: lolwot

I’ve read the Watts paper a bit more and I don’t think it applies TOB (time of observation) bias adjustment or other instrument adjustments (?). In the Fall 2011 paper there were graphs that included...

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By: climatereason

Mosh The Mannheim stuff comes from the Met office as a pdf. There is nothing I can do about that. I have had no need to convert the info into any other format. They are very interesting as they deal...

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By: Brandon Shollenberger

Eh, that’s okay. Those uncertainty ranges almost certainly are too small. I’ve seen at least two types of uncertainty they don’t seem to adequately cover: Volcanic eruptions (Zeke pointed this one out)...

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By: Brandon Shollenberger

Mosher, it looks like part of your comment got cut-off, but I’m not surprised Steve would be involved. Publishing data and code immediately would be desirable (though not even BEST did so), but it...

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By: Brandon Shollenberger

Mosher, I didn’t say it was homogenization. I said it was basically homogenization. The effects of the two processes have a lot of similarities. Moreover, nobody has a monopoly on the term...

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By: Brandon Shollenberger

Mosher, it isn’t a sanity check. It’s insane. It claims to calculate a sensitivity to a doubling of CO2 while using CO2 as a proxy for many things. If I used stock market prices as a proxy for human...

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By: Eli Rabett

Well yes, and you know none have moved and none have been rebuilt and none have new keepers since the year dot. Oh yes, that barbie that featured some time ago, was not 100years old

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By: Eli Rabett

McKitrick's expertise in this area is not <a href="http://judithcurry.com/2012/06/21/three-new-papers-on-interpreting-temperature-trends/#comment-211558" rel="nofollow">worth a bucket of warm...

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By: fifsi

No you can’t. Unless the “ballpark” equates to “”anywhere”. Nice try

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By: thisisnotgoodtogo

Steven Mosher, Thank you. There are several ways to denude your well decorated topia vacua. If science is what scientists do, but science is not what has been done, then you could not say that anything...

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By: stefanthedenier

stevenmosher | July 29, 2012 at 10:34 pm Then confront the reality: Stefanthedenier against BARKLEY UNI & Dr. MOSHER Avoiding the two biggest hurdles, is not science! Hurdle #1: when temp close to...

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By: stefanthedenier

Steven Mosher | July 29, 2012 at 7:55 pm Stefanthedenier against BARKLEY Uni & Dr. MOSHER All that data was collected; to promote that: water vapour (H2O) + CO2 are GLOBAL warming gases = ‘’for the...

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By: Steven Mosher

Actually my estimate for the effect was .1C to.15C for best to worst see how that checks out

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By: Steven Mosher

Sorry but you can. Its pretty simple. take the data. repeat the math.

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By: Steven Mosher

Zeke volunteers his time and I volunteer my time as well. I volunteered before they invited me to meetings. I get to sit in the weekly meeting. I represent to the group what other researchers look for...

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By: Steven Mosher

Ok, if it comes in a PDF to you, then that is what it is. I will see what I can do to get it in a format that is more shareable and will share that back to you and you can share that back to the data...

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By: tempterrain

No its testable experimentally by measuring the sea and land temperatures over the course of a year. There is much greater temperature variation on land than in the ocean, and a much greater variation...

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By: stefanthedenier

STUDENTS FROM BERKELEY UNI: Earth heat / water – that’s horoscope / zodiac entertainment. Jumping from earth to ocean, to Arctic, to Antarctic; is pretend knowledge, for confusing the ignorant....

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By: sunshinehours1

Zeke, Mosher. BEST has a formatting bug for the country data (so far). ‘http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/auto/Regional/TMIN/Text/denmark-(europe)-TMIN-Trend.txt If Tmin < -9 you don't correct for the...

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By: robin

The data is there as a text file, separated neatly by tabs – even the column length is consistent. I’m not sure how it could be more portable? To get the dates you could cut the data into 14 files and...

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By: fifsi

Sorry but you can not. And you know it. And you know it well.

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By: stevenmosher

robin. If you think that approach will work. you are more than welcome to get the PDF from tony. write the program and spit out the data. Then, you can check the data against the PDF to insure that...

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By: Terry

Section 2.1 seems to include TOB, unless I read it wrong

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By: WebHubTelescope

Hey kids, this isn’t community college we’re dealing with. Sink or swim when it comes to the science.

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